West Coast Online Magazine - issue 28 - page 10

Questions Letters Comments

Q: I downloaded a file named 288.ZIP from a reputable BBS. Inside the .ZIP were only two files, 288K.EXE and FILE_ID.DIZ. The FILE_ID.DIZ was the only documentation and it read: "28.8k, connect at 28.8k every time! Small utility which gets rid of the 24k and 26.6k connection rate barrier." I used this program on my USR v.34 Sportster, and now the connections appear to be somewhat slower. What does this program do? (I uploaded it to your magazine BBS.)

A: There are many reasons why you should delete the program and reset your modem to factory defaults. The single binary file was written in assembly language with no contact or author information. The program had no documentation or instructions. The program had no parameters - how can it work on all modems? The claim of this program defies logic. If a 28.8 kbps modem does not connect at 28.8, it is for a good reason - reliable communication is not possible. Whatever this program does, it does in secret, so we deleted it immediately. Share our advice with the Sysop of the BBS where you found this file.

Q: I read (in a national glossy BBS-watching magazine) that a 28.8 kbps modem-based Internet link is sometimes faster than a dedicated 56k link because the modems can compress data whereas the 56k ISDN or Frame Relay link cannot. Is this true?

A: No. There is a world of difference between two 28.8 kbps modem connected over a limited-bandwidth analog line, and a 56K digital circuit (e.g., Frame Relay) for several reasons:

  1. The data flow rate for a 28.8 kbps modem has an absolute maximum theoretical limit of 28.8 kbps, compared to 56 kbps of Committed Information Rate service.
  2. 28.8 modems don't usually connect or stay connected at 28.8 kbps on typical phone lines.
  3. Modems priced for sale to hobbyists are not designed for reliable, 24-hour connections.
  4. Modem compression techniques perform well on easily compressed data, but do not usually speed up the transmission of "short and bursty" TCP/IP packets, binary files, or compressed files.
  5. Hardware and software compression is available for 56k equipment.
Although nobody would trade a hard-wired 56k link for a 28.8 kbps modem link, the modem solution might be useful for low-speed, non-mission-critical applications like a telnetable BBS with a few lines.

Q: My ISP deleted all the picture files in my home directory. I was told that if I put any more (swimsuit) pictures in my directory I would be banned from the system without a refund. What right does an ISP have to nose around my home directory that I pay for?

A: As a rule, ISPs are far too busy to look inside your home directory. However, when their server machine and Internet pipeline slow to a crawl, they do the investigative work required to find where the bottleneck is. Our guess is your ISP traced an incredible amount of traffic to your home directory - and this is what got you the warning. Your choice of files was placing an unfair load on the system. If you wish to maintain a public archive of such pictures, you may need to pay for your own server and Internet feed.

Ironically, the popularity of pornography can make it scarce on the Internet - the best way to kill an Internet server is to put up a collection of erotic (or even swimsuit) images or video clips and allow free access to it (via anonymous ftp). Word spreads like wildfire and a herd will investigate and download your inventory. The heavy demand can overwhelm a server, crashing it.

Administrators of popular sites can make their file collections private, or allow access to only a few persons at a time. Archives of erotic images have gone private, requiring visitors to establish accounts on the server. To connect, you have to find the site through word of mouth, then use email to request access. As with adult BBSs, some ftp sites may require an access fee and proof of age. Ironically, the heaviest demand comes from the puritan-influenced United States. The famous smut archives of Denmark were knocked out of service because U.S. demand skyrocketed, killing the server.

As NASA discovered when it tried to post near-live images of the Shoemaker-Levy comet impact sites, the Internet can reach a point of self-limitation. Even the most modern server hardware has trouble keeping pace.

Q: I have trouble with the rz command to send files from my computer to the shell account on my ISP's system. Any suggestions?

A: Uploading to a Unix system with Zmodem can be tricky. Read the manual pages on Zmodem by typing man rz. We have seen more than one case fixed by using the -v option.

Q: Someone who visited my web page told me I might be leaving myself open to a lawsuit by including copyrighted images. If I grabbed the image, put it on my machine and then made it part of my page, I could see this as stealing - but creating a link so the image appears on my page seems to me to not break any laws. It seems like a grey area - there is little code differences in making a link to a site versus including an image that resides on a different site in my page. I wondered what you thought about this.

A: You raise some good points and you are correct. We think the intentions of your usage of the image is just as important as where the image resides. We have not heard of a case yet where a web site prohibits links to it from other web pages, but in this litigation-crazy society, who knows what the future holds!

C: Last month, you highlighted the "snake oil" reselling of ISDN-based Internet connectivity. While the majority of ISDN service providers do not play bandwidth games, there is another way to get InStantlyDisappoiNted. Some resellers offer only single-direction connectivity, but lead you to believe otherwise.

I signed up with an ISP because I wanted bidirectional on-demand ISDN access. After I spent thousands on equipment, I learned my ISP will never offer bidirectional access. I am still looking for an ISP that does. I fear I may have to scrap my investment in ISDN hardware and try frame relay. What is needed is a bidirectional on-demand ISDN with a low monthly service charge, $30-$50 per month and metered billing based on time and phone charges.

A: It's coming. ISDN equipment is still very expensive on the ISP's side and the prices for ISDN service is still being subsidized in many cases. Stay tuned.

Q: I just bought a Sony 2X internal "cheapo" CD drive, with the assurance it was Kodak Photo-CD compatible. I put in a Photo-CD compatible ROM with images and I can't access the pictures. Do I need to buy a Kodak CD-ROM disk? Or do I need to buy a program to read Kodak-compatible disks?

A: The Kodak disks are in a special (ycc) format requiring special software to access the images. There are at least two shareware programs (Paint Shop Pro and Graphics Workshop for Windows) and some commercial programs that can access Kodak CD images.

Kodak makes a CD that you can buy from resellers for less than $20. That disk contains software and sample images. With the software, you can export the ycc images as either a 24-bit or 256-color file in a variety of formats. Bear in mind that the Kodak files are about 18 MB. You can export smaller versions of the images with less detail.

Q: A long time ago, I read something in your magazine about a proposed "go away" standard for fax machines so that people could quickly end misguided repetitive fax broadcasts. Do you know if any progress is being made?

A: Unfortunately no, to our knowledge, this idea (pressing ### to make fax machines/software abort their faxing attempts) first introduced to us by Richard Milewski, has not made any progress. Over the last year or so, we've emailed, called, faxed, and mailed the idea to dozens of faxmodem makers and fax machine makers. Not one response. As a workaround, those with call forwarding can temporarily redirect a persistent fax attack to a fax machine for a few minutes.

Q: Why do many people with PPP accounts never answer email sent to them?

A: This is an all-too-common problem, our guess is that the reasons include:

PPP customers with shell accounts can log into (or telnet into) the Unix shell once in a while to read the Message Of The Day, or check for any mail sent to them at their ISP's domain.

Q: I uploaded a file to your ftp inbox, but it looks like it's not there. Was it successfully transferred?

A: Yes, we got it, thank you. We have the permissions set so the files sent to us are invisible (not readable by regular users). This is a security feature.

Q: I have a Major BBS system and ordered the ICO package to allow callers telnet access to my BBS. When I call Galacticomm, I am told I need a PC running Unix to make this work. When I asked the same question on Usenet I have read no, I don't need to do Unix unless I plan to become an ISP myself. What does WCO say?

A: The ICO package is a bit tricky to get running, but we know the ICO package and the Major BBS can be enabled for telnet, ftp, and worldwide web with the addition of an EtherFRAD (Frame Relay CSU/DSU gateway) box (or any other choice of a router/CSU-DSU). A Unix box is not required.

Q: I can't find your paper at my local computer store. Where is it distributed?

A: Many computer stores carry only the free magazines they advertise in. Some do not allow our publication in their store, which is their loss and an annoyance to you. We have adapted to this situation by distributing our publication at thousands of additional locations other than computer stores, gaining an advantage for our advertisers. By request this month, we are printing a partial listing of WCO distribution sites in San Francisco and the North Bay. When space permits, well list the South Bay, East Bay, and other locations in California.

Q: I found a utility (FORMAT17.ZIP) on a BBS - it formats DOS floppies to 1.7 MB. But, when I stick the disk into a Mac, it locks up. Are there any settings in the Mac's PC Exchange software that can help?

A: No, the Mac's operating system can't handle nonstandard formats. Personal computers are notoriously intolerant of strange floppy disks because the code is written for speed, not robustness. On the PC side, NFormat v1.1 is a clever and useful disk formatting utility written by Nathan Lineback. In many ways, it is superior to the MSDOS format program. It also gives computer users a way to make backup copies of the latest MS release disks. However, the increase in storage capacity comes at the expense of compatibility across platforms.

C: I am evaluating which ISP to choose for my 56 kbps link. I used the "ping -s" command and found a wide variation of response times and performance among the local ISPs. Your service rated lower than average, so I thought I'd let you know.

A: Ping is not a valid measure of any ISP's performance. Your results will vary depending on where you are pinging from. Ping measures the delays along the total path, which can be caused by many things other than the providers server and local link. Also, your results will vary by the time of day, the number of hops the ping has to go through, and the robustness of the ISPs your ping request traveled through.

Keep in mind that once you pick an ISP, you'll be directly linked to their equipment - so ping times will be short. Once you go beyond your local ISP's server or connection, your pings are at the mercy of the Internet.

Q: Is there a standard or "common practice" for email managers to deal with bad addresses? If I misspell the name of a service provider (e.g. "user@aol.cpm") I soon get a notice about the bounced mail. But, what if I misspell the addressee name (e.g. "usir@aol.com")? Would America Online (or any other provider) make an effort to notify the sender of the problem?

A: We can't speak for AOL, but most ISPs respond by bouncing the mail back with a "no such user" message.

Q: How do I keep track of how much disk space I use in my shell account?

A: From your home directory, type du -s, and the number of kilobytes your account uses will be displayed. On WCO's system, one of our customers, Paul Grosso, wrote a very handy script called status that gives this information in a friendly manner. Paul also wrote a newsfix utility to make it easier to manage Usenet news with the tin program.

Q: I upload files to many BBSs. Some Sysops don't make my uploads available for download and won't answer me as to why. Why is this?

A: What are you uploading? Duplicates or renames of already existing files? Get-rich-quick nonsense? Commercial software? Incomplete or undocumented software? Or perhaps, the Sysops of the boards are so busy that weeks can pass before uploads are tested and made available to download.

Q: Why do I get such high transfer rates (3,400 cps) while downloading from the WCO magazine BBS? With my 14.4 kbps modem, the best I can get on other BBSs is about 1,700 cps.

A: We both have good modems and serial port hardware. You downloaded ASCII text files from our BBS and our modems did a good job of compressing the data to boost the download speed. If you download .ZIP files from our magazine BBS, your speed will drop back to less than 1,700 cps.

Pages 10 and 11 had ads for PowerBBS Computing (www.powwwerworkgroup.com), a2i Communications (www.rahul.net), Megamedia Corporation (www.megamedia.com), and the Internet Roundtable Society (www.wbs.net).


Searching for Reality - Virtually

(By Omar Eljumaily)

So you want to check into the holodeck of the Starship Enterprise? Maybe it's on the Internet! Could be, but I haven't found it yet. However, I did find plenty of other interesting 3D and virtual reality related information, software and discussion. In the newsgroups such as alt.3d, you'll find a lot of discussion about Autodesk's 3D Studio even though 3D Studio has its own groups - alt.3d.studio and comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio. The most frequent posts in alt.3d include requests for specific objects. There's no lack of diversity here, while one person was searching for a 3D model of a salmon fish, another sought a model of the Las Vegas skyline.

The multimedia groups include a lot of 3D discussion. These groups, such as alt.multimedia and comp.os.mswindows.programmer.multimedia, tend to have more questions than answers. Like many newsgroups, opinions seem to be the hottest topic of all. The Windows group had a 29-deep thread on the topic of "Why the Mac is not a good platform for games."

If you have a problem with a multimedia driver (which is likely if you're using MS-Windows), you might try either a driver news group or one of the operating system newsgroups. Use the "/" search command in tin. You can also find a great deal about 3D in the comp.graphics hierarchy.

The WWW boasts an abundance of 3D/VR resources. You'll find, though, that a quick Lycos search (http://home.mcom.com/home/welcome.html) of the terms "3D virtual reality" will give you about five thousand references. A lot of these sites do nothing more than point to each other, so you could waste an entire evening chasing hypertext threads.

A little patience and a lot of mouse clicking will pay off. For general overviews and links to other areas of interest try: http://www.gold.net/oneday/nothing/vrx.html#vres, http://guinan.gsfc.nasa.gov/W3/VR.html, http://www.lightside.com:80/~dani/, or ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/virtualworlds/WWW/scivw.html.

The SunSITE Virtual Reality Archive (http://sunsite.unc.edu/dbarberi/vr/) includes a pointer to a good 3D/VR FTP site. There's also a link to "The Ultimate Turing Test" which I followed. It wasn't that great of a Turing Test as I never forgot I was still using a computer...

Stanford University's DesignSpace (http://gummo.stanford.edu/html/DesignSpace/home.html) is absolutely cool. According to the home page info, "DesignSpace is both an ongoing project and a prototype system implementation of the project's concepts at the Center for Design Research (CDR) of Stanford University in Palo Alto, CA. The basic objective is to provide better access to models created for any design with spatial parameters.

While DesignSpace currently focuses on the conceptual design of simple surface and solid geometric shapes used in mechanical design, we hope that any results of this work will be applicable to other design tasks when coupled with the appropriate tools." In spite of the technical jargon, it's still cool. They have a "Virtual Space Exploration Lab" with a Talking Glove, Virtual Hand, TeleSign, and Virtual Grasp, among other things.

DesignSpace's description of itself brings up an issue with the 3D/VR field: it's full of people talking about the philosophical impact of the technology. You'll find numerous articles with titles like "What is Virtual Reality" (other than an oxymoron) and "The Cyber/Human Interface".

On the other side of socially conscience virtual reality, there's DOOM! Leave your conscience at the system prompt. It's ID-Software's blockbuster hit. The most successful computer game ever. In DOOM it's kill or be killed. For shareware Doom on the WWW try (www.gamers.org/DoomGate) with links to an FTP directory. I couldn't download the 2.5 meg file from Netscape's internal FTP. (I used Trumpet's FTP32 to download it from doomgate.cs.buffalo.edu.) Be sure to get version 1.9, the latest shareware version of this immensely popular game.

Doom has multiplayer capabilities including support for IPX (Novell), serial ports, and the Internet. I've heard that it works well if you have a dedicated hookup, but not so well with dialup. I guess this means that if you work for a big company that has enough money for a T1+ Internet hookup, they might also have enough money for their employees to waste time playing Doom.

The game is available on many operating systems including DOS, Next, Linux, and other versions of Unix. The most notable exception at this time is MS-Windows. (Not surprisingly, most PC based multimedia games are written for DOS.) Only recently have a number of tools come on scene that allow Windows animation and high quality 3D. Windows 95 will have significant 3D animation performance advantages over Windows 3.1.

In the near future, look for interactive 3D on the Internet. Most interactive 3D efforts center around the VRML (Virtual Reality Modeling Language). The language works much on the same idea as HTML, except instead of bitmaps and text, you have 3D objects. You could, for instance "fly" around in a 3D shopping mall, click on the door of a certain department store and then fly into the VRML image of the department store.

Template Graphics Software and SGI are currently offering their VRML browser - WebSpace -for download at (www.sd.tgs.com). Their browser is a little slow, and various companies are promising faster browsers in the near future.

VRML has prompted a proposal for a new USENET hierarchy-comp.vr, with comp.vr.vrml currently under consideration. Try http://vrml.wired.com for more information on VRML. You'll find information on subscribing to the VRML mailing list which is currently running at about 50 to 100 messages per day, so if you're feeling lonely...

Page 12 had an ad for Lincoln's Cabin BBS.


Internet Relay Chat

(By Kevin Elliot)

Internet Relay Chat is a service that lets people converse with any of the other 7000+ people who may be using it at the same time. Users may join in different conversations by selecting from various different channels organized by topic.

To connect to an IRC server, you usually just type irc. This command calls on IRC client software that runs on the server of your ISP's machine. IRC client software usually provides a graphical interface.

If you have tried typing irc on your ISP's system and find it does not work, it means your ISP doesn't have a client for IRC. Below are some suggestions on getting around this problem:

  1. Ask your system admin to install an IRC Client.
  2. Install your own via telnet: Type telnet sci.dixie.edu 1 | sh, and they will do it for you.
  3. Install your own via ftp:
    1. Use anonymous ftp to reach sci.dixie.edu. Get the /pub/irc/clients/ircii-2.8.2.tar.gz file.
    2. Ungzip: gzip -d ircii-2.8.2.tar.gz
    3. Untar: tar -xvf ircii-2.8.2.tar
    4. Type: cd ircii-2.8.2
    5. Type: ./configure (and answer the questions it asks)
    6. Type: make (compile the client)
    7. Type: make install (put the program in the right place)

Using the IRC

After you have either figured out your IRC program, had your Sysadmin install an IRC Client, or installed your own, you can run your IRC client by typing irc (nickname to use). The Windows PPP version is fairly simple, with a point and click interface and a comprehensive manual. Below is an example of what someone using a shell account might see:
wco% irc knight
Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.escape.com...
Welcome to Internet Relay Chat, knight.
There are 4,324 users and 2,364 invisible. There are 101 IrcOps on.
Escape is expanding. Please contact root@escape.com for details
After connecting to an IRC server, you may see a message such as a MOTD (Message Of The Day). After connecting, you need to join a channel. All IRC commands are preceeded by a / command. Channels are always preceeded by a # symbol. Example:
/join #irchelp
knight has joined channel #irchelp
(allison) no way?! I thought green beans grew on trees!
(bob21) nope, they grow on bushes
(fredrick) hey knight!
Once on a channel, anything you type will be sent to the other users in the channel. To leave the channel, type /leave # (chat).
To quit, you can type /quit or even /signoff.

Another great feature of IRC is DCC (Direct Computer to Computer). This is a method of sending files from one computer to another - bypassing the IRC server. Here's an example:

(allan) ok knight. send it over via dcc!
[you type: /dcc send allan fun.txt]
Sending DCC request to allan...
Starting DCC transmission to allan.
DCC File transmission to allan completed [23,512 bytes].
To send a file to someone, type: /dcc send (person) (path-to-file). If a send to you is pending, to receive the file, type: /dcc get (person-to-get-file-from).

Finding Help

If you're already on the IRC, you can join one of the following channels and ask for help:
#help - Standard help
#irchelp - IRC help
#root - If you are root and need help
#unix - Unix help
#linux - Linux help
#www - www help
If you are interested in IRC scripts, I have written one called TiME Skript that has many utilities. It is a powerful script and can make using the IRC a lot easier. A readme file is produced upon installation of the script. You can get the latest version via ftp to: ocala.com, the directory is /pub/irc/scripts/TiME. Next month I'll cover IRC client software for Windows and Macintosh.

Page 13 had ads for California Internet (www.california.com), Black Tie Records (www.wco.com/~blacktie), the Olde Stuff BBS, and Bill Lauer & Associates.

Issue 28 - June 1995, West Coast Online Magazine

Publisher/Editor: Mark Shapiro

Administration: Veronica Shapiro
Contributing Editor: Robert Holland and Jennifer Pennington
Customer Service: Mel Enberg and Karry Walker
Graphics: Steve Kong
Hardware: Fred Townsend
Operating Systems: Randy Just
Operations: Chris Ward
Office Manager: Joseph Magdalena
Proofreaders: David Hayr and David Stafford
Public Relations: Steve Pomerantz
Systems Integration: Paul Theodoropoulos
Technical Staff: Laurie Grey and Scott Shultis

Distribution: City Racks, Robert Escamilla, Laura Michelle, Mark Murphy, Pete Nelson, Rochelle Skwarla, Tiger Team,TLC, and WHT.

Printed at: Fricke-Parks Press (510) 793-6543

Found on the Net

The Darwin "award" is an annual honor given posthumonously to someone who has removed themselves from the gene pool by self destructing through extraordinarily stupid actions. A previous winner was the fellow killed by a Coke machine, which toppled over on top of him as he attempted to tip it to extract a free can of soda.

Among last year's nominations was a case in Arizona. The Highway Patrol came upon a pile of smoldering metal embedded into the side of a cliff rising above the road, at the apex of a curve. The wreckage resembled the site of an airplane crash. The lab technicians eventually figured out that it was a car, and what had happened.

It seems that a guy somehow got hold of a JATO unit, (Jet Assisted Take Off, a solid-fuel rocket) that is used to give heavy military transport planes an extra push for taking off from short airfields. He had driven his Chevy Impala into the desert, and found a long, straight stretch of road. He attached the JATO unit to his car, jumped in, got up some speed, and activated it.

The lab estimated the fellow was travelling at a speed between 250 and 300 mph when he arrived at the curve. (Solid-fuel rockets don't have an off button. Once started, they burn at full thrust until the fuel is gone.)

Pages 16 and 17 had ads for Durand's MindWire (www.durand.com), Pacific Exchange BBS, and GTEK (www.gtek.com).

Where to find WCO

This is a first-time feature in WCO. WCO is distributed at thousands of locations - yet some people claim they can't find it. (And the sales reps for the "big-boy" competitive free computer mags in the Bay Area tried to spread the word this mag was not distributed anywhere past a few store in San Jose) This month, we list some of locations this publication is distributed to in the areas from San Francisco to the North Bay. In the future, we plan to repeat this feature with an equivalent list for the South and East Bay Areas.

Cotati/ Rohnert Park: Advanced Computer Systems - State Farm Dr, Alvarado St Bakery - Martin Ave, Amer. Conven. Store - E. Cotati Ave Sonoma Sq, Arm Systems - Portal St, Back Door Tape Music - Old Redwood Hwy, Burger King - Commerce Blvd - Outside Rack, Cafe Luis - E. Cotati Ave, Coin OP Laundry - E. Cotati Ave, Copperfields Bks - State Farm Dr. Raley's Shop, Cotati Family Counseling - E. Cotati Ave, Cotati Health Center - E. Cotati Ave - urgent care, Cotati Natual Health Foods - Old Redwood Hwy, French Quarters - Commerce Blvd, Gravenstons - E. Cotati Ave, Gravenstons Gifts - Old Redwood Hwy, IMMECOR Corporation - Prof.l Center Dr, L & M Market - E. Cotati Ave, Launderland - E. Cotati Ave - Sonoma Square, Launderland - Golf Course Dr Roger Wilco Plaza, Massage Inc. - E. Cotati Ave, Maytag Coin-op Laundry - Old Redwood Hwy, Oasis Laundry - Old Redwood Hwy, Oliver's Market - E. Cotati Ave, Outdoor Rack - Expwy & Commerce - Bus Stop, Outdoor Rack - Redwd Dr & Expwy - Chevron, Radio Shack - State Farm Dr, Redwood Cafe - E. Cotati Ave, Redwood Cafe - Old Redwood Hwy, Rohnert Park Rec. Center - Snyder Lane, R.P.Health Center - Medical Dr - urgent care, R. P.Health Center - Medical Dr - primary care, Rohnet Park Lib. - Commerce Blvd - Safeway, Silver Bear Market - E. Cotati Ave, Sonoma State U. - E. Cotati Ave - stdnt un. bldg, Sonoma State U. - E. Cotati Ave - rec. room, Sonoma State U. - E. Cotati Ave - Outside Rack, Steel Bear Deli - E. Cotati Ave, Tamaras Cafe - E. Cotati Ave, The 24 Hour Health Club - E. Cotati Ave, The Bookstore Crnr - Golf C. Dr - Roger Wlco Plz, Univ. Square Market - S. West Blvd, Yogurt World - State Farm Dr, - Raley's.

Fairfax: 19th Club - Broadway, 7/11 Store - Bolinas Rd, 7/11 Store - SFD, Cafe Expresso - Bolinas Rd, Coin OP Laundry - SFD, Dons Market - SFD, Fairfax Bakery - Broadway, Fairfax Lib. - SFD, Fairfix - Broadway, Food Villa - SFD, Javea Del Porto - Bolinas & Broadway, New Albion Bookstore - SFD, Peris Music Bar - Broadway, Perry's Club - Broadway, Perry's Deli/Burgers - SFD, Sechuan Cheff - Bolinas Rd, Spanky's - SFD, The Good Earth - Bolinas Rd, Wilwood Natural Foods - Bolinas Rd, Fred's Liquor & Deli - Hwy 116 - Mirabel Road, Speer's Market - Mirabel Rd, Glen Ellen Market - Arnold Dr.

Guerneville: BP Gas & Convenience Store - River Rd, Cinnabar Street Shops - Armstrong Woods Rd, Food For Humans Health Foods - River Rd, Quik Stop - Main St, Russian River Health Center - 3rd & Church St, The Egg Basket Market - River Rd, & Fulton Rd, Visitor's Center - Armstrong Woods Rd, 7/11 Store - Healdsburg Ave, A & M Market - Healdsburg Ave, Better Health Deli - Healdsburg Ave, Big John Market - Dr,y Creek Rd, Circle K Store - Healdsburg Ave, Deluxe Food Mkt - Dry Creek Rd, & Healdsburg, Dry Creek Laundermat - Healdsburg Ave, Health Food Store - Center Ave, Public Lib. - Piper & Center Ave, Raven Theatre - N. Ave, Salame Tree Deli - Center Ave, Single Tree Cafe - Healdsburg Ave, Toyon Books - Matheson Ave.

Kentfield: College Of Marin - College Ave - Library, College Of Marin - College Ave - Olney Hall, Willis Cafe - College Ave.

Larkspur Artist Place - Magnolia Ave, Artist Proof - Magnolia Ave, Bread & Chocolate - Magnolia Ave, Divine Bakery - Magnolia Ave, Easy St Cafe - Magnolia Ave, - Outside Rack, JR Muggs - Larkspur Landing, Larkspur Books - Magnolia Ave, Listening Pleasure - Larkspur Landing, Mr. Z Laundry - Magnolia Ave, Painters Place - Magnolia Ave, The Good Earth - Larkspur Landing Twin City Market - Magnolia Ave, United Liqour - Magnolia Ave, Village Peddler - Magnolia Ave, Yogurt World - Larkspur Landing.

Napa: Beacon Gas/Food Mart - Imola Rd, Golden Carrot - Imola Rd, Happy Donuts - Imola Rd, Software Plus - Imola Rd, Vallergas Market - Imola Rd.

Novato: Bonjovi Cafe - Grany Ave, Dr. Insomnia Cafe - Grant Ave, Evelyn Porter H. Foods - Novato Blvd, Indian Valley Colleges - Ignacio Blvd, Nave Wash And Dr,y - So Novato Blvd, New West Thrift & Loan - Grant Ave, Novato Lib. - So Novato Blvd, Nutrition And Gourmet - So Novato Blvd, Oasis Natural Foods - Novato Blvd N., Old Town News - Grant Ave, P C Plus - Roland Ave, - Vintage Oaks Plaza, Perry's Deli/Burgers - Redwood Blvd, Redwood Bagel - So Novato Blvd, Scully's Cafe - Grant Ave, Sylvian Learning Center - Grant Ave.

Petaluma: 7/11 Store - Old Redwood Hwy, 7/11 Store - Petaluma Blvd, S. & D St, 7/11 Store - Washington Blvd, & Howard St, Albertsons/Airporter Stop, - No, McDowell Blvd, Azer Blue - Petaluma Blvd N., Back To Basics Health Food Store - Washington, Beacon Gas/Food Mart - Lakeville Hwy, Bodega Ave,nue Market - Bodega Ave, Boulevard Deli - Petaluma Blvd, N. & Corona Rd, Carl's Market - Washington Blvd, Copperfields Books - Kentucky Ave, Daddy-O's Pizza - Washington Blvd, Fast & Easy - Payran & Petaluma Blvd No., Ferrari's Cafe - Montero Way, Grocery Outlet - Washington Blvd, Kaiser Hospital - Lakeville Hwy - Main Lobby, Kaiser Hospital - Lakeville Hwy - Pharmacy, Kaiser Hospital - Administration Offices, Launderland - Petaluma Blvd S. - next to 7/11, Marky's Cafe - Western Ave, Motel 6 - Montero Way, Northbay Save Bank - Mc Dowell Blvd, One Hr Photo - Wash. Blvd - Golden Eagle Cntr, Outdoor Rack - Lakeville St & E. Washington, Outdoor Rack - Petaluma Blvd, & E. Washington, Perry's Deli/Burgers - Petaluma Blvd S., Petaluma Lib. - Washington Blvd, Petaluma Rec. Center - No McDowell Blvd, Pick & Go Market - Washington Blvd, Quik Stop, - Washington Blvd, Radio Shack - Mc Dowell Blvd, South City Mrkt - Petlma Blvd S. & Mt. View Rd, Steel Bear Deli - Old Redwood Hwy, Stop & Go Market - Washington Blvd, The Grate Bagel - Keller Ave, The Petaluma Mill - Petaluma Blvd South, The Total MAC - Mari Lane, Washland - Mc Dowell Blvd, - Next To Longs.

San Anselmo: 7th Heaven Cafe - Greenfield Ave, Cafe Gelato - San Anselmo Ave, Cafe Nuevo - San Anselmo Ave, Coffee Roasters - San Anselmo Ave, Conforts Too Cafe - San Anselmo Ave, Easy St Cafe - SFD, Guasco Market - Bridge Ave, - Outside Rack, Hilda's Coffee Shop - San Anselmo Ave, Landsdale Stn Cafe - Center Ave, Let Go Massage - Tamalpais Ave, Living Foods - Greenfield Ave, - Outside Rack, Living Foods - Greenfield Ave, - Inside Rack Magic Muffins - SFD, Market Next To Jack In The Box - SFD, New Moon Cafe - San Anselmo Ave, Oliver's Book - San Anselmo Ave, Pacific Bike Shop - Greenfield Ave, Parks & Recreation - SFD, Perry's Art Supplies - Greenfield Ave, Post Office - San Anselmo Ave, - Outside Rack, PX Market - Center Ave, Quik Stop, - Bolinas Rd, Red Hill Laundry - SFD, San Anselmo Lib. - San Anselmo Ave, TCBY Yogurt - SFD, Whytes Books - San Anselmo Ave, YMCA - SFD.

San Francisco: Aardvarks Books - Church & Market, Alexander Books - 2nd St & Market, All You Knead Cafe - Haight & Masonic NW , Amazing Grace - Church - Castro Area, Aquarius Records - 24th & Noe - Noe Valley, Arvey's - Alameda & Potero NE - Indoor Racks, Bagdad Cafe - Market St & Church, Beards Books - 9th & Irving - Sunset Area, Blue Cafe - Haight - Haight/Cole Valley Area, Booksmith - Haight - Haight/Cole Valley Area, Bookstore - 18th & Connecticut - Potrero Hill , Buffalo Exchange - Haight - Haight/Cole, Cafe Beano - Valencia & 22nd - Mission Area, Cafe Boheme - 24th & Mission - Mission Area, Cafe Diva - Green St, Columbus & Stockton, Cafe Flora - Market & Noe - Castro Area, Cafe Macando - 16th & Valencia - Mission Area, Cafe Sanchez - Sanchez & Army - Noe Valley, California Campus Bookstore - Phelan - Sunset, Carrol's Books - Church & 24th St, CD-ROM - Haight & Shrider - Haight/Cole, Chestnut Cafe - Filmore & Calif - Indoor Racks, Cloud Nine Cafe - Haight St - Haight/Cole, Club Cafe - Valencia & 22nd - Mission Area, Coffee Zone - Haight - Haight/Cole Valley Area, Community Thrift - Valencia & 17th - Mission, Copy Central - 24th & Sanchez - Noe Valley, Copy Central - Haight St - Haight/Cole Valley, Copy Central - Market & Castro - Castro Area, Copy Central - Polk & Calif - Indoor Racks, Cover To Cover Books - 24th St - Noe Valley, Crystal Way - Market & Noe - Castro Area, Cybelles Pizza - 24th & Noe - Noe Valley Area, Daily Scoop - 18th St - Potrero Hill Area, Diamond Cafe - 24th & Diamond - Noe Valley, Different Light Books - Castro & Market, Dog Eared Books - Valencia & 23rd - Mission, Epicenter - Valencia & 16th - Mission Area, Eureka Lib. - 16th & Market - Castro Area, Farley's - 18th & Connecticut - Potrero Hill, Foto 45 - Sacramento St - Indoor Racks, Freddie's Sandwiches - Francisco St & Stockton, Go Bananas - Geary Blvd & Stanyan, Goat Hill Pizza - 18th & Connecticut - Potrero, Golden Gate Univ. - Mission & Ecker NW, Good News - 24th St - Noe Valley Area, Haight Mail - Haight St - Haight/Cole Valley, Head Lines - Castro & 18th - Castro Area, Horseshoe Cafe - Haight St - Haight/Cole Val., Inner Sunset Natural Food - 20th Ave & Taraval, International Cafe - Haight St - Haight/Cole, Jammin Java Cafe - 9th & Judah - Sunset Area, Jave Supreme - Guerrero & 21st - Mission Area, Josies Juice Joint - 16th St - Castro Area, Just Desserts - Church - Castro Area, Just Desserts - Irving & 11th - Sunset Area, Karl's Service Center - 9th Ave & Lincoln, Klein's Deli - 18th & Connecticut - Portrero Hill, La Cosina - 24th & Sanchez - Noe Valley Area, Lodestar Books - Noe & Markey - Castro Area, Mail Room - 18th & Connecticut - Potrero Hill, Main Attraction - Carl & Cole - Sunset Area, Market Street Mail House - Market St - Castro, Martha's Coffee - 24th & Noe - Noe Valley Area, MCC - Eureka - Castro Area, Meat Market Cafe - 24th & Castro - Noe Valley, Mission Lib. - 23rd & Valencia - Mission Area, Modern Times Books - Valencia & 22nd, Muddy Waters - Church - Castro Area, Muddy Waters - Valencia & 24th - Mission Area, Muddy's - Valencia & 16th - Mission Area, New College - Valencia & 18th - Mission Area, New Crockery Cafe - Divisidero & De Haro, New Dawn Cafe - 16th & Valencia - Mission, Ninth Ave, Books - 9th & Irving - Sunset Area, Noe Valley Courtyard - 24th & Sanchez, Noe Valley Lib. - 25th & Castro, Noe Valley Ministry - Sanchez & 23rd, Outdoor Rack - 2nd & Folsom - Wells Fargo, Outdoor Rack - 2nd & Market - East Side, Outdoor Rack - 2nd & Market - West Side, Outdoor Rack - 3rd & Folsom, Outdoor Rack - 3rd St - Mission and Market, Outdoor Rack - 4th & Folsom - AT&T building, Outdoor Rack - 4th & Mission, Outdoor Rack - 4th & Townsend -CalTrain Stn., Outdoor Rack - 5th & Market - SW Side, Outdoor Rack - 8th & Market, Outdoor Rack - Battery & Filbert - Levy's Plaza, Outdoor Rack - Beach & Hyde, Outdoor Rack - Bush & Kearny, Outdoor Rack - Calif & Hyde, Outdoor Rack - Calif & Montgomery, Outdoor Rack - Castro & Market, Outdoor Rack - Columbus & N.point, Outdoor Rack - Embarcadero - Ferry Building, Outdoor Rack - Golden Gate & Polk - Fed. bldg, Outdoor Rack - Howard St & 4th, Outdoor Rack - Hyde & Market, Outdoor Rack - Kearny & Bush, Outdoor Rack - Kearny & Calif, Outdoor Rack - Kearny & Pine, Outdoor Rack - Kearny & Sutter, Outdoor Rack - Market, Outdoor Rack - Market & Church, Outdoor Rack - Market & Dr,um - Embarc. Stn, Outdoor Rack - Market & Fremont, Outdoor Rack - Market & Maine - Hyatt Street, Outdoor Rack - Market & Polk, Outdoor Rack - Mcallister & Polk - State Bldng, Outdoor Rack - Mission & First - Trnsbay Term., Outdoor Rack - Mission/Fremont - Transbay T., Outdoor Rack - Mission & New Montgomery Outdoor Rack -Montgomery/Bush - Bnk of West, Outdoor Rack - New Montgomery & Market, Outdoor Rack - Parnassas - UC Medical Center, Outdoor Rack - Polk St - City Hall, Outdoor Rack - Post & Grant, Outdoor Rack - Post Powell - Union Square, Outdoor Rack - Sansome & Filbert - Levy's Plza, Outdoor Rack - Spear/Market - Federal Res. Bnk, Outdoor Rack - Union & Gough, Outdoor Rack - Van Ness & Jackson, Outdoor Rack - Van Ness & Market, Outdoor Rack - Van Ness & Mcallister, Owl And Monkey Cafe - 9th & Judah, Patio Cafe - Castro & 19th - Castro Area, People's Cafe - Haight St - Haight/Cole Valley, Philly Cheese - Gough- Page & Market, Phoenix Books - 24th & Sanchez - Noe Valley, Photo Day - Haight & Shrader SE, PO Plus - Castro - Castro Area, Potrero Hill Lib. - 20th St - Potrero Hill Area, Presto Prints - Castro & 18th - Castro Area, Radia Valencia - Valencia & 23rd - Mission, Rainbow Groceries - 14th & Mission - Mission, Real Foods - Shrader - Haight/Cole Valley Area, Red Palace Chinese Rest - Mission, Rory's - Castro & 24th - Noe Valley Area, Rough Trade Records - Haight - Haight/Cole , Sacred Grounds Cafe - 16th & Valencia, SF General Hospital - Potero & 23rd St, SF. City College - Bookstore - Sunset Area, SF. City College Union - Phelan, SF. State Union - Holloway - Sunset Area, SFSU - Administration Bldg - Sunset Area, SFSU - Business Bldg, Sparky's - Church - Castro Area, Spout's Embarcadero - Clay & Drum SW, Stacey's Books - Market, 1st & 2nd St, Sunset Lib. - Taraval - Sunset Area, Take-Five Cafe - 16th St Market & Church, Tart To Tart - Irving & 8th - Sunset Area, TC's Cafe - Townsend & 2nd St - Indoor Racks, The Marsh - Valencia & 23rd - Mission Area, Tony Boloney's Rest - Howard & 7th St, Tower Video - Market & Noe - Castro Area, UCSF - Parnassas - Haight/Cole Valley Area, Whole Life - 20th St - Potrero Hill Area, Women's Building - 18th & Valencia.

San Rafael: 4th Street Travern - 4th St, 7/11 Store - B St, Amazing Grace Music - Red Hill, Arigatou Japanese - 4th St, Bagel Shop - 4th St & Tamalpais, Bananas At Large - 4th St, Bedrock Music - 4th St, Borders Books - Francisco Blvd, Brooklyn Pizza - Anderson Ave, Cafe Mesa - Bellam Ave, City Hall - 5th Ave, Collectors Records - B St, Colonial Liquor - 4th St, Community Center - B St, Computer Ware - C St, Depot Garden Cafe - B St, Dominican College - Grand Ave, Double Rainbow - 4th St, Faultline Club - Harbor Center, High Tech Burrito - 4th St, Ihop House Of Pancakes - 4th St, Jazzed Cafe - 4th St, Juice & Javea Nomad - 4th St, Marin Joes - 4th St - Outside Rack, Maximum Music - 4th St, Mcil Next To Gazet - 4th St, Muffin Mania - B St, Music Spectrum - Bay St, New Georges - 4th St, Open Secrets Books - C St, Pak Mail - Las Gallinas Ave, Pardinis Market - 3rd St - Outside Rack, Real Food Co. - Francisco Blvd, Redwood Cafe - Redwood Blvd, Royal Ground Coffee - 4th St, S. R. Civic Center - San Pedro Rd, - Main Lobby, San Rafael Lib. - E. St, Start To Finish Bikes - 4th St, Station Cafe - B St, Stop & Shop - 4th St, Video Dr,oid - 3rd St, Winton's Store - 4th St, Yardbirds Bus Stop - 4th St, Zimms Cafe - Gallinas Ave, - Outside Rack.

Santa Rosa: Administration Building - Administration Dr, Airport Health Club - Aviation Dr, Aroma Cafe - 5th Ave, Babbages - Santa Rosa Plaza - Santa Rosa Plaza Barnes & Noble Books - 4th St Berry's Market - W. 3rd & Dutton Rd, Bits & Pc's - Piner Ave, Bonfare Fine Foods Fast - W. 3rd & Fulton Books Inc. - Guerneville Rd & Cleveland Circle K Store - Lewis Rd, Clairelight Books - Mendocino & 7th Community Hospital - Chanet Rd - Main Lobby, Community Hospital - Chanet Rd - Emergency, Community Hospital - Administration Offices, Community Market - Mendocino Ave, Computers On Line - Cleveland Ave, Copperfields Books - Montgomery Village, Copperfields Books And Cafe - Fourth & D Sts, Country Store- Health Food - Montgomery Blvd, County Offices - Fiscal Dr - Inside Rack, Crystal Channels - Cleveland Ave, Empire Computers - Santa Rosa Ave, Hall Of Justice - Administration Dr, & Fiscal Dr, Higher Grounds Cafe - Mendocino Ave, Kaiser Hospital - Bicentenial - Main Lobby, Kaiser Hospital - Bicentenial - Pharmacy, Kaiser Hospital - Administration Offices, Luther Burbank - River Rd, Mac Networks - 10th Ave, Mac's Deli - Fourth St, Mudd's Cafe - Mendocino Ave, North Light Books And Cafe - Wilson & Fifth, Office Max - Santa Rosa Ave, One Hour Photo - Santa Rosa Plaza, Organic Grocery Store - Fulton & Guerneville, Outdoor Rack - 3rd & E. St - Library, Outdoor Rack - 3rd St - Good Earth, Outdoor Rack - 4th & Mendocino, Outdoor Rack - 4th & Mendocino, Outdoor Rack - 7th & Adams, Outdoor Rack - 7th St - KFTV Channel 50, Outdoor Rack - Administration Dr & Fiscal, Outdoor Rack - Administration Dr & Ventura, Outdoor Rack - B & 3rd St - Wells Fargo Bank, Outdoor Rack - B & 3rd St S. Side - Traverso's, Outdoor Rack - D St - State Building, Outdoor Rack - D St & Fourth - Willow Brooke, Outdoor Rack - Mendocino & Mcconeel - Swen's, Outdoor Rack - Montgomery - Hahmman, Outdoor Rack - N. Center & Administration Dr, Outdoor Rack - Patio Court - Farmer's Lane, Outdoor Rack - Santa Rosa & 3rd - BOA, Outdoor Rack - Santa Rosa City Complex, Outdoor Rack - Sonoma Ave - Farmer's Lane, Outdoor Rck - Sonoma Ave /S. E. St -Home Savings, Outdoor Rack - Wilson & Fifth, Outdoor Rack - Wilson & Fourth, Perez Music - Fourth St, Perry's Deli/Burgers - Mendocino Ave, Radio Shack - Santa Rosa Plaza, Radio Shack - W Steel Lane, Revelation Cafe - Fourth St, Santa Rosa Health Food Store - Fourth St , Santa Rosa JC - Mendocino Ave - Auditorium, Santa Rosa Junior College - Library, Sawyer's Book Store - Fourth St, Steel Bear Deli - Colgan & Santa Rosa Ave South, The Good Guys - Guernville Rd, The Ware House - Guernville Rd, Treehorn Books - Fourth St.

Sebastopol: 7/11 Store - Pleasant Hill Ave, Beacon Gas/Food Mart - Hwy 116, Community Cntr - Off Hwy 12 - near Ptlma Ave, Copperfields Books - S. Main St, Deli & Groceries - Sebastopol Ave, East-West Cafe - S. Main St Fiesta Market - Gravenstein Hwy, Firecrest Cafe - Hwy 116, Food For Thought - McKinley St, Grateful Bagel - Hwy 116 - near Main, Gravenstein Cafe-Hwy 116 - Across Frcres Mkt, Italian Deli - Pleasant Hill Ave, Launderland - Gravenstein Hwy, Main Street Computers - N. Main St Nicole's Health Food Store - Hwy 116, Old Town Yogurt & Cafe - Gravenstein Hwy, Palm Drive Hospital - Petaluma Ave, Pit Stop, Gas & Convenience - Sebastopol Ave, Public Lib. - Bodega Ave, Stop & Save - N. Main St, The Garden Cafe - N. Main St, Vegetarian Cafe - McKinley St, Vern's Market - Hwy 116, Womankind - Petaluma Ave, & Weeks Way.

Sonoma: 7/11 Store - Railroad Ave & Boyes Blvd, 7/11 Store - West Napa Ave, Body & Soul Natural Foods - W. Napa/Fifth St, Books Corner - E. Napa Ave, Books End - W.Napa Ave - Sonoma Mrkt Place, Broadway Market - Broadway St, Econo Wash - Hwy 12 - Vineyard Center, Jerry's Market - Arnold Dr & Cecelia Dr, Pyramid Books - E. Napa Ave, Quik Stop, - Broadway St Radio Shack - E. Napa Ave, Sonoma Lib. - E. Napa Ave, Sonoma Market - West Napa Ave & Fifth St, Sonoma Regional Lib. - West Napa Washland - W Napa Ave - next to Longs Drugs.

Terra Linda: Apple Family Center - Joseph Court Fargo Bikes - Northgate Dr, Mac Service - Redwood Blvd, Marin Wine & Spirits - Northgate Dr, Minis Market - Redwood Blvd - Outside Rack, Redwood Cafe - Redwood Blvd, Save Way - Northgate Dr, Scotty's Market - Freitas Pkwy Silverman's Ice Cream - Northgate Dr, Starbuck Cafe - Northgate Dr, The Magic Flute - Northgate Dr, Zims - N. gate Dr - Outside Rack.

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